KAWASHAWAY SANCTUARY VISION-O-RAMA? APRIL 20, 2002 Faeries gathered at the Hilloway Conference Center, 12040 Hilloway Road, Minnetonka, Minnesota. Several Visionistas, the fae organizers of the Vision-o-rama?, were purported to have arrived sometime before 9:00 a.m. and had, by 9:00 a.m., set up a tidy registration kiosk near the entrance, supervised the set up of morning beverages and breakfast snacks and tested the audio equipment in the meeting space. At the kiosk, the agenda for the day was posted [with facilitators in brackets]: 9:00-10:00 Arrival, Coffee and Dish – "Hey, Girl!" 10:00-11:00 "What's It All About, Faerie?": Framing expectations and intentions for the day [Eureka and Rocky] and Check-In 11:00-11:30 New Age Hoo-Ha Woo-Woo [White Ash and Eureka] 11:30-12:30 Chunk #1 – "What experiences at Kawashaway are most meaningful to you?" [Scooter] 12:30-1:30 LUNCH 1:30-2:45 The Superchunk (#2): "How do you experience community – at Kawashaway and not at Kawashaway?" [Two Bears] 2:45-3:00 BREAK 3:00-4:00 Chunk #3 – "What are you hungriest for?" [White Ash] 4:00-5:00 Chunk #4 – "What is your vision of the organization?" [White Dragon] 5:00-5:30 Closing Ritual [Passion Fruit] 5:30-6:00 CLEAN-UP By 9:00 a.m., a sometimes allergy-prone faerie, remembering the presence of a cat during a site visit a few weeks before, had arrived with his vacuum cleaner and begun to sweep the entire meeting space. Fae participants began arriving at approximately 9:00 a.m. and repaired mostly to the kitchen, where java and tea, as well as a small selection of fruit and a profoundly copious selection of bread, were available for morning repast. The interval from 9:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. was observed as a period of greeting, conversation and not-too-terribly-saucy dish. Nearly dead on 10:00 a.m., a Yoo-Hoo went up from the main meeting space and faes gathered – tea in hand, crumbs on face – to circle for the first time at Hilloway. (A few faes arrived after the circle had begun and were welcomed in even by those cranky ones who, unaccustomed to seeing morning hours on a Saturday, were still waking up.) Faes Present: Garland, Passion Fruit (later in the day to become known, if mistakenly and only for a few hours, as Passion Flower), Eureka, Beebalm, White Dragon, Scooter, Tanya, Sunny Dish, Yearth Prairie, Will, Poilu, Rocky, White Ash, Two Bears, Ewe, Braeburn Blue, Hummingbird. In the center of the circle was a dark, lacey cloth, an agate with a candle in it, and an incense holder with a stick of incense burning. The circle began with the sharing – and echoing – of names. Intentions for the day Rocky and Eureka summarized and invoked the intentions of the day – the reasons given by Visionistas for organizing the Vision-o-rama?. **Near as any fae could tell, the last great vision of the faes of Kawashaway was the buying of the land which has become Kawashaway Sanctuary. This vision having been realized, the Sanctuary has served as gathering place for faes for a number of years. **Stimulated by questions raised by several faes, most recently on the nwradfaes@yahoogroups.com e-list (still known by some – and to the confusion of others -- as the "One List"), thought was directed at considering the future of Kawashaway: that is, what faes now see as its purpose and mission or what they envision it might yet be or become. **It was decided several months ago to call a circle of interested faes to consider these questions. The date of April 20 was fixed and preparations made. This circle, it was thought, would provide an opportunity for faes to consider together how they experience community, what they get from it and contribute to it. **Amid the planning for the Vision-o-rama?, it was decided that it should not be merely a day-long verbal discussion but, rather, to the degree possible, an experiential exploration of the questions raised. Thus, while there would be plenty of opportunity to talk, there would also be opportunities for non-verbal exploration of the questions as well as expression and sharing. The day, it was determined by Visionistas, would be organized in "chunks" – each facilitated by a fae or faes. **Passion Fruit noted that it was important to acknowledge the quite grand accomplishment to be found in having realized the initial vision of buying the land and building the Sanctuary. **White Ash noted a hope that the explorations of the day would not be simply about community as it is experienced at Kawashaway Sanctuary, but about faerie community in a broader sense – in other locations and at time other than the annual Kawashaway Gathering. Check-In Following the declaration of intentions for the day, the circle turned to a period set aside for check-in. A talisman – or, rather several talismen (talispeople?) – were produced and passed around the circle as those present shared. During this period faes observed various states of being: energy moving up and down; gladness to be present; being emotionally hungover and tired; a willingness to move into "just-go-for-it" in spending time at the Vision-o-rama?; a challenge in adjusting to medications for A.D.D.; a feeling of being very present; a feeling of being not-so-present; delight in being with other faes; an awareness of "elder" energy; a not knowing how one is to contribute to this day (do we look to the past for guidance or discard it?); a feeling that faeries are no longer radical faeries but just faeries; a sense – in a larger, global context – of this day taking place during decidedly troubling times (accompanied by a desire to turn off the radio and not read the newspaper); the experience of now living with a trust fund – not a bank account so much as the trust that funds will be available; returning from a week-long exile in South Dakota. The check-in circle concluded at 10:55 a.m. or, as one fae noted, the duration of one incense stick. [There was the New Age Hoo-Ha Woo-Woo, led by White Ash: a circle dance with all joining hands. Given that the time allotted for the Hoo-Ha Woo-Woo had not all been spent, at the conclusion of the dance, there was an improvised non-verbal ritual – two circles, one inside facing out, one outside facing in. The circles rotated every few minutes, allowing those on the inside to gaze at those outside and those outside to gaze at those inside. There was some fidgeting at making eye contact with so many, but also murmurs of delight in all of the views.] There was a potty break – nothing revolutionary, but the job got done. Chunk #1: "What experiences at Kawashaway are most meaningful to you?" Scooter facilitated this chunk, asking for faes to speak not only about what good experiences they have at Kawashaway but, also, what we as Northwoods faeries do particularly well. Responses are abbreviated below. Passion Fruit: No Talent Show, especially White Ash; raspberries on the way to East Lake; the growing ability of Northwoods faeries to be affectionate, even sexual, in public Hummingbird: Able to be myself; I found the faeries and thought "Oh, that's who you are"; space to get away; I'm now 2 ½ hours closer Will: We are good at being welcoming (which is not the case in many places with long histories of shared experiences among a fixed group of people); we're good at being low-tech, making do with very little Ewe: I felt the welcome; I can imagine Kawashaway as paradise; and I've been there Braeburn: The food is incredible, even if the process of getting it there is difficult; the land speaks to me Rocky: We're good at coming together when something needs to be done – for example, DaisyCare; though this getting things done doesn't always happen quickly; at Kawashaway, we created something out of nothing Eureka: My first gathering there was a ritual. I didn't know what I was supposed to do – but I just went with it. My doubts about it were converted into belief – a belief in ritual; I'm a ritual faerie. That happens for me now more naturally. Building things and the connection with other people (I like) – the "we" that happens Poilu: Food. The results are a gift. The process is not always a joy or easy thing. The first thing that came to mind: how much love there is. The River and being able to be there as we do it – naked, playful, joyful fun under a huge sky on public land! Yearth Prairie: Faerie theatre – at Kawashaway and in the city; spontaneity; orgone (sp?) intensity – the sort of sexual energy described by Wilhelm Reich; orgone boxes at Kawashaway would be nice – could we make some?; or maybe they're still sold?; "nature points" – the smells, sounds of Kawashaway – everyday something comes back to me; I don't know how to make Kawashaway happen here (in the city) Two Bears: Rituals – opening and closing, Salamander's song at the end of the No Talent Show; a place where I can take my shields down (my job demands I have my shields up); opening up; trust; fire circle with a pretty young thing who waited until all but Two Bears had left and then spoke of how so many want to have his body, but have no interest in his stories; sitting in the cookhouse chopping vegetables and the sensuous pleasures of all that food; a place where I can let my tears go, where it's safe to do that Topaz: The visual of the faeriesi n the Pride Parade – especially the two- headed broom; we're wonderful at naming things, ourselves, one another, we're not gender exclusive; I love how we honor our ancestors, those who came before and how we, now, are the future ancestors of those who come later Sunny Dish: The experience of arriving for the first time, getting out of the car and seeing the arbor across the entrance to the bogwalk with the words "Welcome Home" – how could I know all that that would mean?; the possibility of new experience; being more in my body than anywhere else; the clothes come off and I get the experience of the wind across my skin, or the touch of another fae Scooter: I love you you finally get there (how it takes time and effort to get there); the walk across the bogwalk to the "other side"; the fabulousness (quotient) is high – an environment which nurtures talent for creating; it's not about nails and bolts, it's about relationships – yet, there is a tension between the two, a tension between relationships and the physical part (tasks); how do I balance between relationships and getting stuff done?; I'm glad it takes awhile to get there, glad that there's hot and cold running water White Dragon: Too much to put into words; I experience eros – the life force, orgone; the Land – can't talk about it because for me it is pre- language and post-language, though I can communicate about it through my pictures; fire circle moments; music is sacred and with it I'm able to go non-verbal; the Kawashaway community is really not tied to any place, even though (to date) it's not been implemented away from the Sanctuary; permission to be myself; sexual permission – I'm overweight and sexy anyway; the magical moments are no longer tied just to the Land Beebalm: Being able to be drawn into other people's pleasures – trailbuilding with Will; fire circle; dinner/meals; dinner circle; bringing new faeries in; there are many forms – the light gets reflected in a lot of ways; variety of people and the ability to surrender to something bigger; the capacity for delight; how we name ourselves; our capacity for delight in one another and in the Land Tanya: Breakfast: someone insults me at Kawashaway and brings a big smile to my face as I realize that you really do love me; right brain and left brain – at Kawashaway I get to flip the switch; I remember shaving at the mirror outside the cabin when a butterfly alighted and I felt the presence of Matthew, my first lover – he stayed and watched me; the connections with nature are magic Garland: Kawashaway is a place where we can be nurtured by our own kind; it enables us then to go out in the world; we are the missing link in a world that needs magic; walking the bogwalk, you woak through the veil; it's a healing place; our world between the spiritual and physical; hard to put in words White Ash: BIG ENERGY, way beyond physicality; I love the Call and how it is that we call one another to be together; the cult of Karen; heart circle and someone's soul is bared or comes unglued; we walk a tightrope all the time among all the different conceptions (of who we are, what we do) and yet we survive; we care Passion Fruit: Defining the faeries, someone said, is like trying to bottle fog; faeries are outside the twin strait jackets of consumerism and gender roles; people are hungry for more community; much of contemporary society is at odds with building community; faeries make a conscious choice to come together in community, retreat, heart circle; it's not what the larger culture urges on us; it's not about buying anything Chunk #1 concluded at 12:30 p.m. There was a preview of the next chunk and then there was Lunch Rocky and Scooter facilitated lunch – salad and sandwiches, chips and fruit. There was more dish, boisterous laughter (featuring several notable Two Bears guffaws) and a visitation by the anti-Karen. After eating, many faes retired to the meeting space for impromptu napping – until a Yoo-Hoo went up from the room. Those nearing slumber were coaxed to their feet where Passion Fruit facilitated post-lunch movement with several exercises in movement and communication during which we all learned one another's (1) middle names, (2) area codes and telephone exchanges (and among a contingent from South Minneapolis, complete phone numbers) and (3) height relative to our own. It was not rocket science, (thankfully) and managed to raise the energy level in the room for the Superchunk (chunk #2): How do we experience community at Kawashaway or not at Kawashaway? Garland: Faeries are magically based – observing the wheel of the year; rituals of aspiration tied to the seasons Two Bears: Lamas (sp?) or "first fruits"; the other eight points during the year fall at times when Northwoods faes are not on the Land in any organized, recurring way Braeburn Blue: northern lights experienced together Two Bears: Some years ago: Tuesday nights at the river – talking and dishing and singing and sneaking off to the bushes for sex and chanting and drumming; after the deforestation of the riverbank, we tried to continue that at Nightingale and Topsoil's Eureka: Service work White Ash: Community as extended family; community as shared space; intentional community Hummingbird: the community found on nwradfaes@yahoogroups.com Sunny Dish: away from Kawashaway: building community when I lived in D.C., building the regularness of interaction with people until the time arrived when anytime I went out of the house, I ran into someone I knew; as part of Kawashaway, I notice that certain types of community don't happen on-line because they can't – for example, the intimacy of being with one another without words or simply in silence Passion Fruit: community experienced in Minneapolis (where I'm known) vs. community experienced in Brazil (where I'm not known); levels of, degrees of knowing (by sight, through conversation); desire to have organic interaction, not scheduled; the intense experience of co- habitation is a sort of community experience; I experience community in different groupings: among faeries (where I'm as free as any place I know), in the artistic community in Minneapolis (which is broad and scattered, but has some shared core values), in steam room (when the last straight guy leaves and those remaining may create the community of sex play then possible); Institute for Renewal of Community Leadership; community both restricts and community supports; at Kawashaway, no one is working at wage work; the working, tasking playing together is community and is a denser web Two Bears: dictionary definitions: community has something to do with being in the same location; having shared values; shared nationality or ethnicity Will: community in terms of "family of choice" – I don't think anymore is so much a choice; community is more about one does or will cultivate with what one is attracted to; interconnection simply is; we make the Gathering together; those who disavow that together-effort frustrate me; we haven't figured out how to cultivate that away from the Sanctuary; nwradfaes@yahoogroups.com is very large for me, owing to my country mouse lifestyle, perhaps larger than for those who know one another regularly in physical space White Ash: I notice how I experience community in sub-groups of faeries; where as a newcomer I said "I'll do everything and anything!", now I'll do just this or just that. Poilu: 1990 was my first Gathering and the first Gathering on the Land at Kawashaway; I notice how now I tend only to go to the main Gathering on the Land; years ago, I would go to heart circles at Patrick's on 24th Street, parties at Mohan's house; the Pride Parade and booth in Loring Park were also community experiences Eureka: Frequency of interaction builds community; need to schedule in order to build in the frequency of contact Rocky: We used to have the weekly canasta game, every week sharing about the people and place that matter to me Yearth Prairie: Roots of words – "comm" means "hold, contain"; "unio" means "with"; "-ity" means "the state of"; I don't like the last part so much the "state of" and the stasis rather than the process; I think more in terms of "communion"; I think of community in terms of receptive – letting things happen, and active – getting in there and making things happen; a balance between the two is optimal; the lay of the land is the law of the land – topography has a lot to do with how we be with one another; we have a pilgrimmage to get to the Sanctuary and this creates an enforced sense of sacredness; that is, the effort required to get there make the getting there sweeter Sunflower noticed falling energy in the room, notes that the time is 2:55 p.m. – the chunk was scheduled to end at 2:45 p.m. – and suggests a break. A break is observed and relished. There is, subsequently, a Yoo-Hoo and Mrs. Bianca Ash, art teacher, calls those assembled together for Chunk #3: What are you hungriest for? Paper and odorific pens, and assorted other art-making materials, are made available and Mrs. Ash beats her students into creative submission. Students are given perhaps 30 minutes to answer this question using the materials provided or whatever they may have brought to class themselves. The resulting works of art are displayed along one wall of the meeting room, a wall of shame is averted, and students comment on what they have created for the benefit of others present. Art works (without commentary) may be viewed on-line at the "Photos" section of http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nwradfaes. After another break, artists reconvened for Chunk #4: What is your vision of the organization? (Stewards/Friends/what?) White Dragon faciliated Chunk 4, asking assembled artists to render on paper how they see the faeries of Kawashaway being organized. After drawings were completed, they were placed in the center of the circle for all to view. Then, each artist offered a few words about her drawing. (Unfortunately, these drawings were unavailable at press time.) Sunny Dish: Organization could be about working in tandem. What comes to mind is the moment when one person holds out a hand for another to join. In that moment, that very instant of possibility between one person expressing interest in joining hands with another and before the other has extended a hand in turn, there is the question: will this joining together happen? I sense that cultivating a willingness to be in these kinds of moments would result in more organization. White Ash: Modules Scooter: Crumpled paper Eureka: Circles. With the great circle – an annual even to give power to do all the things are wanted and needed – then connected with all the smaller circles of those who organize to complete the tasks Garland: Kawashaway as a springboard to always have a support group; there would be no worries about where to go; Masons Ewe: The idea is in the middle with conversations about it going on all around, conversations which take different shapes and reach out to the stars; a network of conversations about what is possible Yearth Prairie: Tree (growth); base (envisioning and imagining); top (will, intent, energy); flames to focus passions and spontaneity together contribute to growth Dragon: Echoing Cougar's image of a spider web; spiders in the trees; groups and sub-groups gathered around a center; everyone is connected through another person Beebalm: The center is who we be; the ring around the center is what we belive, think, feel; the ring around that is how we design (plans and structure); the ring around that is how we manifest feeds back to who we be Rocky: The many come to the table; together but as individuals; well-rooted Will: Envisions several structures within community: A new sanctuary in the Driftless area of Wisconsin which has its own community and a decision making process – with others close by Urban community which has its own organization; others who are connected to it Faebiz – the money making venture envisioned by White Ash and others Kawashaway – clueless about how it is organized; but not leaving it without structure These structures all connected. Lots of structure, but decentralized. Two Bears: Quilt; little figures who work on quilt as they know best; connected through threads and fabric; sharing equally in work Tanya: I envisioned a circle, I drew an egg; the goal is the key, even if it's not realized perfectly; moving toward a goal and getting close counts Hummingbird: Many doers; more woelcome; legal eneity exists; need to be able to defend that Passion Fruit: Something more than 2-dimensional; too perfect looking; tearing it; folding it back into itself; weaving the reality Will: What I hear is a lot of articulating structure as structureless; I don't get any clearer idea of what would happen or be created Beebalm: Al-Qaeda is believed to be a strong network, a very modern idea of organization; perhaps faeries are ahead of our own organizational evolution Eureka: This discussion acknowledges the importance of interconnection (in contrast to frequent faerie conversation about autonomy, independence, doing one's own thing) Passion Fruit: Being multi-centered has advantages; when it fails in one area, it surges in another; the more multi-centered our faerie community is the healthier it is Will: Multiple centers could well mean more difficulty in channeling energy necessary for Kawashaway Sanctuary White Ash: Or it could be that more vibrant multi-centered community will raise the level of energy available – to the benefit of Kawashaway Passion Fruit: We don't need to assume there's limited energy; there is synergy possible White Dragon: And greater ease found in it. Eureka: And sometimes things are hard. Sometimes rewards are greater when things are harder. Will: There's a common theme – the need for more faeries to step forward and stick their hand in Eureka: When you reach your hand out – as in holding hands – you are risking . . . Ewe: Not so concerned with what it looks like; being center of other activities Scooter: The Ashram in India where Steven and I go is connected to thousands of people around the world who have never been there, but who support it. Two Bears: And there are blank sheets (of paper) waiting . . . Rocky: I would like to see visioning at this year's Gathering, especially about amenities for the Land. There are lots of faes doing the work of Kawashaway, but only three of them are called Stewards – why? Keeping up with legal requirements for our organization – how important is that? Will: How the organization works should not be a mystery. It should be accessible to newcomers. Hummingbird: I would rather see no separation between what Stewards are and do and what others who work for Kawashaway are and do Discussion of this question ended here, as Passion Fruit urged the clearing of the room for the closing ritual. Closing Ritual The closing ritual was composed of three exercises facilitated by Passion Fruit (who, by this time, had been restored his rightful name). Everyone lay in a large circle, heads toward the center. First, Passion Fruit asked that, after his instructions, people choose between: (a) remaining silent; (b) copying the sound of someone else or (c) introducing a new sound. There was a chorus of breaths and screeches and orgasmic gasps and turkey calls and calls to Gladys as voices responded. When the sound quieted, Passion Fruit then asked that people choose between: (a) remaining silent; (b) copying the sound of someone else as nearly identical to that person's sound as possible (it's not about tweaking someone else's sound) or (c) introducing a new sound – but only one original sound from each person. The chorus reached an even higher creshendo with the introduction of howling and other new sounds. Finally, Passion Fruit asked all assembled to take to their feet to assemble close together (but not pressing on one another) in the center of the room. In an exercise evocative of the behavior of flocks, anyone behind that those at the front was to imitate the behavior of the one in front – until the one in front was no longer in front. The front seemed to circle counter-clockwise for a few minutes with arm and leg movements of various sorts – and then seemed to jockey back and forth from one end of the room to the other. The flock eventually came to rest and assemble in a circle, which brought the invitation to help with clean up and bring the day to conclusion. A Post-Event was called for 8:00ish at the fire circle across from where Rocky and Passion Fruit live. Faes gathered to dish, yet more, and wait for the snow storm scheduled to begin at 3:00 a.m. CDT. ### The following pages contain comments solicited by Two Bears and submitted by Salamander and Cougar, who were unable to attend the Vision-o-Rama, but wanted to share some thoughts. Salamander020411 Dear TwoBears: The lazy redundancy-opposed side of me says I've already answered all of these questions once in our email network exchange. I wish someone had held on to those responses. However! Many thanks for asking. 1. I am by nature an introvert with good people skills. This means I like to be around people, on the fringes of activity, but don't necessarily step into the middle (strange as this may sound!). Thus my usual morning behavior: having stayed up as late as possible dancing or plaing canasty, I sleep as late as my body needs, which is generally late by the clock. I then go to the cookhouse and make my tea, sitting in relative isolation physically while surrounded by the whole gathering. After a pot of tea and a crossword or two I am ready to enter into groupness. This doesn't mean I don't experience community during all this--it's going on all around me and I feel its flow and energy. But I don't need to interact with it until I'm ready. THEN... I experience community best when it is intentional, that is when we focus on building community through shared activities, rituals, work projects, meals, notalent, etc. Mostly it's about hanging out together, spending time being around each other. It's about being a household--in a household each person has a role and a responsibility and shares the benefits. Community implies communion, shared bread. 'Nuff said. 2. Same thing generally applies. I have relatively few close friends aside from Dennis. That's intentional in a way. But I crave community. Were I single, I would probably consider living in an intentional vowed community, for all the reasons cited above. In the meantime I seek that community and am attempting to build it through my church congregation. I'm glad that the faeries exist in the background of that, but they are a support or subrosa version of my foreground work. 3. I take it that this means "at Kawashaway"? The question is unclear. It varies: a deep sexual connection, sharing that joy with someone; community rituals; fire circles that are focused energy; community theatre; time alone or just sitting while the activity whirls around me. All are equally meaningful but all require a degree of group intention. This doesn't happen by accident. 4. Hungriest for? Those moments of shared experience that raise me to bliss are generally both immanent and transcendant. Where we gather as a group to do...anything...and the energy clicks so that it feels "magical". I can't explain it better than that...I just "know it when I feel it." 5. Can't really speak to this. I realized some time ago that I couldn't be a steward any longer because I'm shepherding another community. I can be a friend and offer financial support. Whether that's good enough? The current worker bees have to figure that out. Salamander Hiya HoneyBearBear! Thanks for asking for my input. Here goes: Two Bears wrote: > Dearest Cougar, > Although you will be unable to be at the Visionorama in person, your input > via e-mail would be welcome. We will be addressing the 5 questions listed > in the Visionorama invitation: > > How do you experience community at Kawashaway? Mostly in one to one relationships and interactions. Some in small group activities. Occasionally in large group activities (over say 15 participants), those which are fully participative rather than a few faes planning and implementing an activity while most others are spectators/following. > How do you experience community not at Kawashaway? The elist has a sense of community for me and person to person email is an experience of community. I have on-going friendships with several members of Kawashaway community apart form gathering times. Since I live away from MN I don't attend other events although there are a couple of SF folks who are also part of my KaSa community with whom I spend time in person. > What experiences are most meaningful to you? The experiences that are most meaningful to me apart from one on one time with individuals who are part of my inner circle are small to medium sized activities (~3-12 faes) at KaSa that have a focused intention. For instance: "we're going to do the dishes together and sing now" or "we're going to drum at the bonfire" or "we're going to have a heart circle now about sexual empowerment"... Focused intention and a number of participants that everyone is actively involved and present... These usually involve a person or two that I am familiar with and trust and at least a few others that I don't know and am not yet known to. > What experiences are you hungriest for? Play with others that involves explorations of mind, body, and spirit in medium sized groups. Heart circles of quality, both general ones and specific-topic ones. I want some attention to QUALITY of these experiences, i.e. paying attention to doing whatever we're doing well, not just doing it. I.e. "if it's worth doing, it's worth doing well." That means having an openness and awareness of what it's like to NOT do something well. I want to know what others want to try (like a BIG wish list paper sheet of interesting activities at the gath!) and connect on what resonates with me. Sometimes that's hard to combine with just letting it all unfold... > Stewards/Friends – dissolution, evolution, repatterning, or ??? Huh?? guess I haven't been in on that discussion topic... Thanks and love, over and out, (and likely back in again), Cougar > Should you choose to respond to these questions, your responses will be > communicated to those attending the event. Please post your input to me no > later than Thursday, April 18th; (I'll need some time to collate all the > responses). I am certain some sort of "minutes" or report will be written > up from the events of the day, and will be available via e-mail for those > who could not attend; more on this later. > > Please remember this is not a once-and-for-all event. Discussions started > at the Visionorama are hoped to continue on during Gathering, and hopefully > we will have a full weekend retreat opportunity this Fall; however, it > should also be acknowledged, this is the wishful thinking. Of course, when > faeries are involved, wishes can come true! Gratefully Yours, Two Bears Kawashaway Santuary ? Vision-o-Rama? ? April 20, 2002